That's the real story is they can't follow up on every one of these sightings. The deadline for fuel assistance applications is Sunday, but most state emergency funds are still unspent. If its not, you just thank the person and say good-bye.. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. of Energy & Environmental Protection. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. These highlights have been edited and condensed for length and clarity. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. Still more confusion ensued when a lab technician said she might have gotten some samples confused, and thus the canid result was thrown into doubt. [An overabundance of deer] means our forests are getting older and older and not being replaced. He also points to the influx of invasive plant species in New England as evidence of an out-of-control deer population. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. This week, NatureWatch columnist Thom Smith answers questions about chipping sparrows, the connections between shadbush blooms and shad fish, and gives advice on how to attract butterflies to your yard. DEPARTMENTAL BULLETIN 1 of 13 Number: 2013-02 Date Issued: March 1, 2013 . And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. The truth is, I was by this point dubious. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. He said matter of fact I do. Mountain lion sighting-By Virginia June 25, 2017 at 11:23:56 AM. Yes and you want to share what you learned. The regions top predator, the coyote, is classified by biologists as a mesopredator (a type that in New England includes skunks and raccoons), which feeds primarily on smaller animals. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. It's you know I recognized their report and. Mike Guyton pressure was almost Greyhound like very muscular large back legs on it and the coloration on it was almost an orange brownish orange color and so I stop and I look at this thing in the field and as the animal looks at me the face was very chiseled definitely not a bobcat. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. And boy it was big it had to be at least 200 pounds the thing was you and and it just made a little bit of noise and it was gone. On the idea of bear hunting in Connecticut. And you know all that. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. Okay. Use this button to show and access all levels. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. For mountain lions in Connecticut, a lack of evidence is very good evidence. A:I have hoped to see a big cat, that is bigger than a bobcat, since NatureWatch began getting reports in the 1980s. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. But one day. She is renowned for tracking. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. It was his great coolness and daring (either that, or fear) that enabled Crowell to shoot the animal at a distance of one rod only (roughly 16 feet), first hitting it in the leg with his shotgun, then dispatching it with a bullet to the head from a borrowed rifle. It was his great coolness and daring (either that, or fear) that enabled Crowell to shoot the animal at a distance of one rod only (roughly 16 feet), first hitting it in the leg with his shotgun, then dispatching it with a bullet to the head from a borrowed rifle. Really appreciate it. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. We strolled across the tavern parking lot and ducked into the forest, where Ottmann maintains a portion of his $15,000 worth of wildlife recording equipment (hes had no luck capturing a cougar on camera, though, despite more than a decade of trying). John is calling from Bennington. Mar 1, 2017 - All the latest news and updates of New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board's Message Board. This is why tangible evidence is so important. ; track sets or photos of track sets; other tangible physical evidence verified by qualified professionals. Peter Biello: Ok weird question but do they make good pets. Earlier in the year, Id attended one of these presentations, and even in the tiny village of Woodbury, Vermont, on a stiflingly hot summer evening, nearly 100 people showed up to hear her speak and see her photographs (Morse is a magnificent wildlife photographer). Have you seen one. Just. They run to about 25 mph. Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it. Tracking experts Paul Rezendes, Charles Worsham, George Leoniak, and Dr. Mark Elbroch examined the photos. Jason Hawley says his office gets lots of calls about mountain lions each year. A mountain lion can weigh well over 150 pounds, while a bobcat might weigh up to 35 pounds and reach 45 inches (tip of nose to end of tail); a coyote 50 pounds and 53 inches; or a lynx 35 pounds and 40 inches. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. Re (1): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct - By russ January 30, 2016 at 05:10:25 PM. Based on this blurry photo and pawprints, DEEP confirmed it was likely a mountain lion. I've collected scat samples I've got several in my collection. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. Sam Evans-Brown: And when we talk about subspecies this actually leads to to an interesting tangent which is that the field of biology recently has been sort of revolutionized by the use of DNA to determine what subspecies are. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. This is the exchange. I just want to tell you a story that I read. Caller: I do. He soon developed a five-question litmus test: How far away were you? Peter Biello: Well hey Rob. Thanks for your call. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. Big cats used to be kept as pets in the U.K . When you look at a state like Connecticut, with all the people we have here, all the trail cameras we have in the woods, all the cars we have driving you can imagine if we had an established population here in Connecticut, we would know about it pretty quickly. It is difficult to know if someone saw a mountain lion without any tangible evidence. We know that the closest established breeding population is in either the Everglades of Florida theres a small population down there and then out in South Dakota and Nebraska. So it's six months of a large large predatory animal that moves great distances on the landscape that is not known if it went northeast west Salt and how many circles it did. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. A harvest is kind of twofold. Mountain lions weigh . Responding to complaints about a predator eating a local farmers sheep, Crowell and a small group of fellow hunters had tracked the big cat through the snow. I think they never left, Ottmann piped in. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. Thank you very much for that story really appreciate it. An adult male bobcat can reach four feet in length and 35 to 40 pounds. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. On a mountain lion that died on a Connecticut highway. Ottmann nodded. Indeed, in 2011, a male cougar was hit and killed by a car in Milford, Connecticut; through its DNA, wildlife biologists were able to trace the cat back to South Dakotas Black Hills, some 2,000 miles distant. And so. Growing up in northern Vermont, Id heard stories of sightings, though always a few steps removed from the tellersomebodys cousin had seen a cougar cross the road on their way home from deer camp up in Canaan (or was it Coventry? but won big 2night. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. But that was OK. Bo Ottmann. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. Here's a look at 8 commonly found in the Berkshires. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. And still the the folks there did weren't able to come up with it with 100 percent certainty what deposited that scat. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. They just end up in these places. You know perhaps poke around where you saw it and see if you can find a track. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. After 20 minutes or so, we turned and stumbled our way back to the parking lot. She was having a garden party on her back porch and everybody in the party saw this mountain lion across the field down below the porch. In the first, there are those such as myself, whove maybe heard a few second- or third- or fourth-hand stories as well as official denials from state agencies or professional biologists, and therefore find themselves betwixt and between, neither believing nor disbelieving. New Hampshire Public Radio | Caller: It had to be a mountain lion convinced I was about 30. Watch. OK. It's good to talk to you. Really appreciate it. MassWildlife uses evidence-based criteria for confirming reports of mountain lions. Nowadays, many reports include photographic evidence, thanks to camera phones and trail cameras. It is a low, sprawling plant with small 1.4-inch scarlet flowers. John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. Caller: I cannot recall or see the tail in my in my image of it. It was not a bobcat. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. bobcat in new england article-By katchaya May 23, 2017 at 06:22:02 AM. Someone's got to see one they're very secretive. Hawley: Wildlife biologists across the United States know where the current mountain lion range is. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. Peter Biello: Yeah well what do you think Pat is. For all the men out there that don't realize it. (I don't get the daily Eagle but I get The Berkshires in Brief [online newsletter] and read it daily.). The last catamount killed in Vermont stands under glass just inside the doors to the Vermont Historical Museum in Montpelier, a hop, skip, and a jump down the block from the statehouse. All these photos were taken in a state other than Massachusetts. She quotes a biologist in Lyme New Hampshire who who is keeping two mountain lions himself so in the not too distant past in the early nineteen hundreds it was perhaps more common and still in Maine. Wild populations of mountain lion survive in southern Florida and in mountains of the West. All the latest news and updates of New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board's Message Board. Bobcats in Feeding Hills - By Claire October 3, 2014 at 09:39:37 PM. 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Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. I have seen them fly and do so especially into trees when in danger, either real or imagined. Bearded, bowler hat, expression impenetrable behind facial hair and the stoicism of an earlier era. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. She lives near the end of a gravel road in a modest, low-slung house tucked into the flanks of the Green Mountains. John you're on the air. Hey, I know what I saw. I didn't see him online. But on the other side of that coin there is this sense that there have been so many sightings locally and you guys Patrick you might recall the name the Wyndham McCracken she kind of turned herself into a local authority off authorities the right word but she was very dedicated to this. There is also a small population in southern Florida. And theres another school of thought, Well, no, there just are too many of them probably we have to reduce that population somehow. Where do you fall in that whole continuum? What color was it? No that's a little bit outside the range. And the clincher, What would you say was the most distinguishing feature? I can't. Re(1): ANOTHER female disperser in addition to the one BELOW! If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. It is what wildlife biologists call an apex carnivore, which means it can overpower pretty much any other creature in its environmentwith the exception of an armed human. Anyways after three weeks I finally found the image on line on a field and stream photo contest and the explanation in the end was the person that set the camera out with another individual and they believed that someone who knew of the camera location saw the similarities put the can't picture on their SD card so it looked like that camera recorded the image that is. Yes. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. Many people do not realize how large a grown Bobcat is. We'd love to have you in the queue. But along the lines of the conspiracy theories as you mentioned earlier there there was a bit of a sense on behalf of what I'll call the promo online community who felt that fishing gain maybe not even so much in a spoken policy but maybe sort of an unspoken policy did not want to find themselves in a situation where they had to spend money to create a management plan and so forth. When a cats around, its not hard to find evidence. I don't see the hoaxes anymore at that level. If mountain lions returned to Massachusetts, there is no need to update current forest management practices. It's unfortunate that that kind of thing happens as often as it does. So yeah as far as wildlife species that put deer and trees know there aren't any others that I know of that put deer in trees just just humans might be responsible for that. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. Thank you very much for being here. It may not surprise you to learn that I was quite intrigued by this third group. And that's this morning at 10:00 here on NH PR. The USDA's Forest Service Wildlife Genetics Laboratory found that the animal came from South Dakota. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. Well they are the same. Most of the reports I would not consider; a few from experienced hunters and outdoor people were hard to discount, although none of them had photographic proof or any footprints or scratch markings except for one naturalist that I have known for years. I mean so what what is the practical change that it would bring to New Hampshire if any. Anyone can get fooled. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. In 2011, the U.S. There was the vaguest of trails, crisscrossed by deadfalls and a sharp-thorned bush that soon drew blood from Ottmanns right hand. I was aware, too, of how a certain mythology surrounding the animal had taken root in Vermonts culture and even its identity: The University of Vermonts athletic teams, for instance, are known as the Vermont Catamounts, and their logo features a snarling cat lunging through the cleft of a V.. Today, mountain lions are found in the mountainous regions of the West. To Betty and Ottmann, the dominant narrative of the occasional itinerant cougar from the West is not particularly relevant to the facts on the ground. I have no choice but to take this seriously, he told me. Some of these photos have taken on urban legend status. If theyre in one, theyre in the other.. Please limit your input to 500 characters. The deadline for fuel assistance applications is Sunday, but most state emergency funds are still unspent. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. Can you tell us about that story. There is no evidence of a reproducing mountain lion population in Massachusetts, MassWildlife says on its website. Let's look for other evidence. Both male and female lions have similar appearance, but male lions are 30 to 40 percent bigger than the females, according to the Mountain Lion Foundation. but won big 2night. ), or someones coworkers mother had seen one from the back porch of a summer camp back in 07 or maybe 08, and shed tried to get a picture but this was before she got her first iPhone, and by the time shed retrieved her camera from the living room, the cat was long gone. Or years or so. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. Hes also unafraid to take unpopular positions when he deems it necessary: Shortly before our meeting, hed signed a petition in favor of keeping ATVs off public roads. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. I would always share potential sightings with Tom French, Ph.D., assistant director of MassWildlifes Natural Heritage and Endangered Species Program for nearly 35 years, now retired. Wildlife experts say no. What's interesting about Bobcats is here in the Northeast we have some very large bobcats. Growing up in northern Vermont, Id heard stories of sightings, though always a few steps removed from the tellersomebodys cousin had seen a cougar cross the road on their way home from deer camp up in Canaan (or was it Coventry? The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Re(2): Webster update - Misunderstanding! Its OK, he told me. Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion. I do this shit.. Not yet. Re (1): Bobcats in Feeding Hills - By weather01089 October 6, 2014 at 06:44:20 PM. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. Peter Biello: But clearly you know you're saying like hoaxes people who claim to have seen a mountain lion but knowingly have not or are appropriating photos taken elsewhere of legit mountain lion say out West where they people acknowledge that they exist certainly knowingly or unknowingly in this case the person who sent it to me said hey a friend of mine sent me this photo and said he took it on his back porch also. The tail, I said. They sent he sent his scent those two samples with his to Wyoming an unfortunate Fish and Game Commission there did not get a positive read on it but send it back to Central Michigan University where they did a nuclear micro satellite DNA analysis and found no significant difference between that scat and other scats that were tested from the Rocky Mountain region. Because they are.. So I don't understand really how how this this idea came to be but it is the main reason why folks believe that fishing game is is covering up the fact that there are mountain lions in the state again with no evidence. Japanese knotweed and phragmites are the bane of my existence on our road. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. McEnroe: Scientifically, this is a case where absence of evidence is kind of evidence of absence, right? Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. Patrick Tate: No downward pressure at all I think actually Sean turned up and we found the evidence there a number of people would finally say finally we can put this debate to bed. So I would put this in the category of sort of like shark attacks right. was declared extinct in 2011. Morse founded Keeping Track in the belief that getting citizens interested and engaged in wildlife will have the knock-on effect of getting them interested and engaged in how land-use decisions affect wild populationsand might provide the impetus for conservation efforts.

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